Wednesday, March 9, 2011

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Isang pakikipag-usap sa isang mabuting kaibigan sa pamamagitan ng Facebook.


Pebrero 19
Prof. Emmanuel V. Dumlao

oo rannie, pero wala kang balbas noon hahaha. makabuluhang proyekto yang eskuwelahan mo, hangad kong magtagumpay ka. bayaan mo, pag nakahinga nang kaunti sa ginagawa kong research, pag-aaralan ko ang sinasabi mo.

relevant pa rin si freire sa atin hangga ngayon, sayang at hindi siniseryoso ng mga diyos nating edukador ang kanyang pilosopiya sa edukasyon.



Pebrero 19
Rannie Agustin

lol. Prof. habang naghihintay tayo na makaluwang ka sa oras, hiling ko sana na mag rekomend ka sa amin ng agri engr at veterinarian. ang eskuwelahan namin ay para sa mga maralitang bata. pero kinikilala namin na ang centro ng pag-unlad ng mga bata ay ang pamilya. at ang pamilya at komunidad ay sumesentro sa mga bata. kaya ang mga pamilya ay kasama sa mga benepisaryo ng rania Child Development Center. tayo ay lilikha ng komunidad na kolektibo. kailangan namin ng mga konsultant sa ngayon at sa kalaunan ay mga trainor at edukador.

at ipagpapauna ko na, kung maaari ka sana naming imbitahan na maging bahagi ng board of trustees sa hinaharap. midnight o hayag. midnight, kung ikaw ay kilala o associated sa mga grupong kinaiingitan at pinagmumulan ng kaguluhan at hidwaan ng mga progresibong mga grupo.

hayag, kung handa kang ipagtanngol ang ating eskuwelahan at community samakabuluhang balitaktakan.

prof., UP.Tacloban ako product. dating SUARA at TFD volunteer nuong tayo ay nagkakasama. aksidente lang ang pagtatagpo natin sa UP Diliman shopping complex dahil sa isang Master's Thesis.

salamat po ng marami. hangad ko ang paglago ng lahi mo.


Sabado
Emmanuel V. Dumlao
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hahaha bahaa na muna ang ma gruong binabanggit mo, maramin makabuluhang bagay ang dapat inaasikaso kaysa balitaktakang walang katapusan. praktikalidad lamang ang iniisip ko tngkol sa imbitasyon, mas pisikal na distansya pa ang tinutuko ko. teka kung nagkita tayo noon ay mukhang kalikasan ang isa sa ating pinagusapan, o tumatanda na ko. sige basta udate mo ako.



Sabado
Emmanuel V. Dumlao

rania
am still digesting the web of concepts outline in the ideological and supplemental frameworks of rania. rani, i believe that nothing stands greater than a life dedicated to creating a society where freedom and jusice reign. and i commend you for giving birth to rania.

i have, however, fundamental questions regarding its philosophy: why tie rania to both christianity and communism? why start heavy with the baggages loaded in such ideologies? freed from these labels, i believe rania will be better off.

where am i coming from? just recently, i encountered Berinarew, an epic (which is still unknown even in the country's leading universities, includling UP) by the Tedurays, a tribe (also elbowed to sidestream by both moslems and christians) in mindanao. Contained in the epic, among others, are concepts of human rights concepts and practices like sefebenal and kefio fedew. i translate sefebenal roughly as a right to defend human right and kefio fedew as a human condition free of hunger, injustice, etc. rani, i had been a human rights educator for more than a decade yet only in Berinarew have i met such rich concept of human rights. and right here in our country. what am i driving at? rania will lose nothing in plumbing the wisdom out of the very soil on which it stands.

and this brings me to my initial comments on rania's curriculum. in its quest for knowledge it must make a significant turn towards our own soil, our own people, our own culture, or own literature. rania's vision and mission are too great that the attainment of which should not be tied or entrusted to deped's and unicef's curricula. also, it must be critical of the dominat theories of child development that lay claim to universality. yes, these have come out from scientific studies, but still, these are borne out and framed based on specific experiences of people of different culture, llife situations, etc.



Sabado
Emmanuel V. Dumlao
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rania
am still digesting the web of concepts outline in the ideological and supplemental frameworks of rania. rani, i believe that nothing stands greater than a life dedicated to creating a society where freedom and justice reign. and i commend you for giving birth to rania.

i have, however, fundamental questions regarding its philosophy: why tie rania to both christianity and communism? why start heavy with the baggages loaded in such ideologies? freed from these labels, i believe rania will be better off.

where am i coming from? just recently, i encountered Berinarew, an epic (which is still unknown even in the country's leading universities, includling UP) by the Tedurays, a tribe (also elbowed to sidestream by both moslems and christians) in mindanao. Contained in the epic, among others, are concepts of human rights concepts and practices like sefebenal and kefio fedew. i translate sefebenal roughly as a right to defend human right and kefio fedew as a human condition free of hunger, injustice, etc. rani, i had been a human rights educator for more than a decade yet only in Berinarew have i met such rich concept of human rights. and right here in our country. what am i driving at? rania will lose nothing in plumbing the wisdom out of the very soil on which it stands.

and this brings me to my initial comments on rania's curriculum. in its quest for knowledge it must make a significant turn towards our own soil, our own people, our own culture, or own literature. rania's vision and mission are too great that the attainment of which should not be tied or entrusted to deped's and unicef's curricula. also, it must be critical of the dominat theories of child development that lay claim to universality. yes, these have come out from scientific studies, but still, these are borne out and framed based on specific experiences of people of different culture, llife situations, etc.


ito muna. gudlak


Linggo
Rannie Agustin

Prof. thank you very much. i think it over, in fact we started with the practical ones but thee is a question from the corners of my consciousness. Where are we heading? what is the end? at the middle of identifying the needs for curricula,training programs for teachers and auxiliaries and family development programs which are all central to child development, there must be a uniform end. we are not getting or robbing the individual and group ability or freedom to be creative and perform empowered with acquired knowledge and skills. We are trying to be humane. But I see the consequences of not making the perspective clear and specific. We could not afford to suffer the same experience of our comrades from Marx's time and contemporaries and our Lord Jesus Christ's disciples. All of them are aphostasised. Schism, debates could be settled by identifying the issue whether it is still in unity and consistent to our perspective and vision.

one could suggest or take action by him/herself. but it must assure the means should be consistent to the framework and consistent to and leading to our vision. or we will just do the same of the past. biting and devouring and consuming each other.

after careful evaluation, i noted a lot of advantages of doing so. we do not hide any and we could correct the misimpression and misunderstanding of Christianity and communism.

this is not a religion neither political. we simply would like to provide a place for the people with common goal, rejected by prevailing system and society in general.


with regards to curricula, you are right, i learned it from you and freiri.

though, we need a lot of resources. finance, good researchers, good teachers, child psychologists. DepEd is always consistent to exclusive for neoliberal conditioning of child's mind.

UNICEF is good but it is mostly based on foreign experiences. No Filipino research output (alternative) endorsed to UNICEF. But we could get some ideas from them.


we aim for a realistic and practical curricula. Philippines is somehow difficult. But we find ways for a cultural and historical diversity- sensitive curricula and teachers. Teachers are very important. Training and empowerment and orientation or reorientation.

it is also our aim not to condition the mind of the children to condemn neoliberalism. we will wait for the right time to introduce (fairly) the different systems in the society. then let the children to decide what to pursue in their life since the children is central to all of these (pls. do not be confused with family is central to child development).

Prof. thank you very much i need people like you. you are endangered and must be protected and should be covered with endangered species law.

I need more comment and suggestions.

keep in touch.



6 oras na ang nakalipas
Emmanuel V. Dumlao
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one question on practicality: are the filipino parents ready to entrust their children education to a christian communist school?

on rania's philosophy: why aim for singularity? for uniformity? the tower of babel fell down not because of the multiple languages used by its builders but because of the failure or refusal of the authorities then to recognize multiplicity.

the very shortcoming of both the communists and christians and jesus' disciples rested on the fact that they wanted to impose a single interpretation of the world. in their minds, the world outside their own was astray and therefore must be conquered and tamed, based on their view of what the world must be.

another point; why must rania be afraid of politics and being political? the very positioning it has done so far in the fields of ideology, in identifying itself in the context of philippiine realities already constitutes politics; already manifests political stand.

again, another point: what is rania's view of family? how will it consider the fact that so many evils in our society arise from the narrow concept of family being espoused by filipinos at present?
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3 oras na ang nakalipas
Rannie Agustin
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Prof. thank you very much. I really need people like you.

In fact, it is not just the parents who who are not ready to entrust the children to education or institution for care and education. DSWD is one major problem. It is not unknown that all government agencies are anti-
communists personality and systemic wise.

But it is a great challenge to present the truth about Christian Communism. It is up to the parent whether they will join rania Child Development Center or not. We need a comprehensive orientation for this. As part of rania' ethics, rania will introduce the school policies, curricula, etc.


it is just like selling a consumer good. a consumer must be informed of the ingredients, expiration date, price and nutritional facts. otherwise, producers are indirectly defrauding the consumers.

Parents and students are consumers of services and products of rania. They must be informed well of everything.

With regards to Philosophy, I am not sure if you are referring to Medium of instruction. rania believes that communication is a critical part of child development. we prefer the lingua franca for the children to easily absorb the knowledge they need. but English is not disregarded for accept the fact that most of the terms in Science and Math are in English and English per se is necessary for the children high and higher education and for the consumer of their produced skill and knowledge.

rania's operation is not limited to Philippines only. This will operate offshore in French, German, Spanish and other local dialects abroad.

all educ materials are for translation. even the toddlers and pre-school materials in software and interactive cd's we will be buying from High Scope will be reproduced in lingua franca. With high scope, we believe in the universal theories of child psychology and development at early stage. colors, sounds, shapes, scribbling..movements, etc. there is no need for different materials for every locality and or country. yellow in leyte is darag it could never be blue or bughaw. and circle as lidong and not triangle or tatsulok.

with Christian perspective, true Christian sense, there is no such thing as " want(ing) to impose a single interpretation of the world. in their minds, the world outside their own was astray and therefore must be conquered and tamed, based on their view of what the world must be".

We Christian believers are not discriminatory. We want or preparing ourselves for accommodate the poor Muslim people not to tame or conquer them. We even preparing a Madrasah Curriculum for the children victim of conflicts and abuses.

Prof, maybe you perceive the common practice of the "christians" who claim to be Christian but never in practice. and the practice of Communists driven by their elitist and superiority complex.

rania is not afraid of politics. but since rania is working within the framework of Christian Communism, politics is for Ceasar's and not of God's. Politics is about power and authority. rania is aiming for stateless society where there is no power and authority.

Please do not misinterpret the social realities associated or overlapped with politics . Philippines realities are not exclusive for politics. A man struggling over a piece of trash or a girl prostituting herself for a dinner does not constitute political realities.

Inaccessibility to their basic needs is not about politics. It is social. How a parent or sibling help them? The family relationship to one another? The community to individual and family?



Christian perspective is the basis of our family concept. Filipino or even in any other western culture, family is not Christian. They promote individualism opposite of Christian collective perspective of family. Individualism creates and promote competition and competition results to envy, greed and intention to destroy.

This could us help how we perceive a family.Even a community should be like a family-like core in a " big house" and in that big house are farms, sports complex and school, etc.

We do not believe in nationalism but globalisation. In globalisation there are no foreigners. We think ourselves equal to the people of Africa, Middle East, etc. When we were in SUARA, we shouted that we are citizen of the world. But in rania we will shout that we are one family.


Kahapon
Emmanuel V. Dumlao


i'll go back to my basic, question: why christian communism? why not plumb the depth of our own and start seeing the world from there? it doesn't mean going back to zero, it's already here just waiting to be tapped.

rani, you'lll be contradicting rania's holistic framework if you'll fragmentize man/woman to socail, cultural, etc. "give to cesar what is cesar's..." is a kind of thinking that fails to understand the basic fact of life: everything is intertwned, each aspect is a part of each.

17 oras na ang nakalipasRannie Agustin
Christian Communism is different from the political ideology in the early pre-Marxist communist movements of 19th century France and beyond from Europe and the Mormons'.

My Christian perspective could be seen on the Bible verses citations (ideological framework and supplemental basically based on "love your neighbor" thoughts) and my communism is the primitive communism where life was very simple. This is my basic but complemented with the human developed and modern intelligence and technology.

Like what I have mentioned, we will be a family with family members from around the world.

With due respect, I do not own any. Please elaborate. What do we own?

With "Ceasar's" doctrine, I do not contradict any. It is consistent to Christian and communist experience. But I do not say that immediately right after the establishment of rania, we will detach ourselves from the government. There will be a multi-level of progress and individual and community development. At first, every one shall be subject to government laws (it is God's will to submit ourselves to ordinances of man)but once we learned the ethics and morals of interacting with other men, gradually we will be free from ordiances of man but captives of our conscience but once we learned to love other peoples, then we will be free from government and ourselves but captives of Christ. We are in the perfect status if we love our fellows.

---------------to be continued ---------------


Please be informed further that SUARA is different from SUARA Bangsa-Moro Party List.

Thank you.

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